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Hello, and welcome to another episode of the Self-Initiative Project Podcast.

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I’m your host, Jim O’Brien.

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Hi there, and welcome back. Tonight I have my special guest,

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Morgan, with Rogue Preparedness. How are you, Morgan?

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I am doing great. How about yourself? Doing good, doing good.

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I’m excited that we’re finally able to do this together and talk about preparedness.

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I know it’s important for you and your family, and I feel like I need to be

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doing more, and I’m hoping others will take away something from this and maybe,

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if nothing else, think about what they might should be doing for themselves

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and their families as well.

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But before we get into it, I wanted to talk about you a little bit.

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I hate talking about myself, so I’m always excited to put someone else underneath the magnifying glass.

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But, you know, who are you, your background? How in the world did you and your hubby get into this?

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Like, you know, everything that got you interested and started in prepping and whatnot.

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Well, yes. So it was well over, it’s closer to 15 years out in 10.

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I keep saying 10 just because that’s just been my spiel for so long.

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At this point, it’s getting closer to 15 years.

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And, and so, you know, I didn’t really, I didn’t grow up with it.

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You know, I didn’t grow up hunting. I didn’t grow up, you know, any of that.

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My mom dehydrated food and she like, you know, so she sewed our own clothes

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and she canned food. but it wasn’t because of a preppy mindset.

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That’s just what like, you know, her grandma did and that’s what she did.

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And, and we did that to save money and we, you know, it was all really delicious.

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And I love, you know, that, that made me love that stuff. You know,

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I can my own stuff and, you know, I, it was always like this thing of like this

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joke, like, because she made.

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Homemade jam and she canned it and it was always this joke like

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oh i have to buy store-bought jam like

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we would never we were never without jam we

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had jam all the time and it was just like an atrocity to buy a jam and like

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um so i grew up in that i went into that mindset you know like you know store-bought

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is gross you know uh but you know i mean other than that like i didn’t really grow up with any tort.

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I didn’t think it was because, you know, prepping or anything is just good.

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And so it was, you know, many years later, late twenties,

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when I kind of fell down a rabbit hole once my cell phone, but well,

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once there was a power outage and my cell phone was almost dead and it was just

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like this little blackberry at the time.

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And like, I, you know, I wasn’t super important or anything.

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I wasn’t, you know, nobody was going to be calling or texting me or anything.

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But it got me thinking. I was like, how would I charge my phone if there’s no electricity?

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Yeah. And even at the time, there was still.

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You know avenues of doing that way

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more advanced these days of course but you know

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i i didn’t even think about like charging in my car or anything i don’t i honestly

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don’t know if i even had a car charger at the time where they even existed i

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seriously don’t know but i don’t remember ever charging my phone in my car but

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anyway so then i went down like this rabbit hole of well how would I do this?

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And discovered prepping and then got really hardcore into it.

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And I met my husband and just been at it ever since. Yeah.

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No, it’s great. And, you know, I know sometimes prepping can get a bad rep, right?

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Like the extremist and yada, yada, yada. But it’s not about that.

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It’s not about that. It’s not about paranoia.

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It’s just about exactly what it says is being better prepared. Right.

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And it’s so funny that you talked about growing up with your grandma or whoever,

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you know, canning and jarring and whatever, because I have a similar experience.

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Like, I remember going down into the basement of my grandma’s house and on the

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wooden shelves in the back of the basement were all these jars of I don’t even

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know what, you know, like jarred pears off the tree. Right.

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Pickled okra, like I’m making it up, but you know what I mean?

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Like it was all this stuff and she certainly wasn’t in a prepper’s mindset,

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but I do think for that generation, it was about survival and it was about doing

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things inexpensively and living off the land and taking care of yourself and

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not relying on stores and society and much less, you know,

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going through the great depression and whatever else, I think there was a financial

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need to do that sort of stuff, right?

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And I want to say it’s kind of becoming a lost art.

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You know, a few things I want to comment about there about what you said.

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So it was a way of life, and the way that people used to do it is that they

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would grow their own crops and then they would can it for the winter because

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they can’t grow it during the winter, right? Right.

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So they’d grow the crops during the spring, summer, whatever that they could.

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During their growing season, and then they would can everything out of necessity.

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They had to do this if they wanted to continue to eat during the winter. Good plan, yeah.

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So they did that, and there really weren’t those grocery stores or those supply chains or anything.

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They were literally their own supply chain. They traded a little bit,

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of course, but, you know, I mean, it was a necessity.

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And then, you know, once, you know, what you were talking about,

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the Great Depression and And all that things changed a little bit,

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but people still did it because, again, necessity. It was cheaper.

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They all had their own gardens, all these things. And grocery stores really

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weren’t like a big thing until the 30s.

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So it took, it has taken us less than 100 years for us to forget these necessity skills.

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These skills to help us get through because we have these modern conveniences

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and our supply chain and all this.

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But every year, our supply chain and everything is getting more strained for various reasons.

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And so I think it’s just so important now more than ever.

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Like 10 years ago or something, I don’t think we were having as many problems as we are now.

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Maybe we were, but not to the extent.

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No, I don’t think so. I mean, you hear all the time, and it doesn’t matter what

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the industry or the topic is. It’s like we’re hearing supply chain this, supply chain that.

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I mean, you know, whether it’s new cars and computer chips being strained,

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you know, the source of computer chips being strained or, you know,

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not to go too far down a rabbit hole, but recently my brand new refrigerator died on me.

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And it’s the compressor. And the compressors have been on back order for who knows how long.

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Luckily, I think it’s going to get replaced this week. But, you know,

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it’s a supply chain thing. So you just don’t know, you know.

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Yeah, that’s actually been a big problem for a couple of years.

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Like we went to go buy a fridge in 2020, actually, about the maybe middle end of 2020.

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And at that time, supply chains were real strength because of COVID.

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And, you know, so and since then, it’s been extremely difficult to recover from.

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And I mean, we were barely able to get a fridge.

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Barely. And then, you know, freezers were out of stock forever because everybody

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was buying them and they couldn’t make them fast enough. It’s crazy.

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So many things that can happen and strain a supply chain. It’s crazy. Yeah.

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Completely agree. So, you know, I wanted to say it up front.

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So we’re not talking about extremist stuff here.

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We’re not talking about people that are short of hobbies or whatever else.

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And it’s not about paranoia either, but we’ve talked about what it’s not briefly,

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but what is being prepared mean to you and your family?

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So the other day, I think it was yesterday, actually, I made a reel on Instagram

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that I was almost out of cinnamon.

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And so I went to my room where I have it and I just grabbed another cinnamon off the shelf.

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I didn’t have to go to the store. I didn’t have to freak out like,

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oh, I’m out of cinnamon or whatever it is.

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It doesn’t matter what it is, right? I can just go and get whatever I need at any time.

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I have crafts, I have books, I have, you know, supplies, I have food and water

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and I have, you know, extra, you know, candles and flashlights and whatever.

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And it’s not about, you know, waiting for something to come.

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It’s using it when I need it.

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Period. It doesn’t matter what it is. No, I think regardless of what’s going

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on in the world, I think there’s a lot of merit of being completely self-sufficient

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or as self-sufficient as you possibly can be, right?

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Especially in light of lunacy that the world seems to be these days anyway.

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Yeah. And, you know, self-sufficiency can look a lot of different ways,

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you know, through trading and getting involved in your local community and stuff like that.

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Because, you know, like we can’t really provide everything ourselves,

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but, you know, we’re going to have to change our mindsets a little bit.

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I can’t, I don’t have enough space to grow a year’s worth of wheat, you know.

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I don’t have enough supply, you know, room to grow a year’s worth of rice or whatever.

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We eat these things and they store really good. So we get that and then I try

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to grow and do whatever and, you know, get the dairy. I don’t have a cow.

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I find a local farm for that stuff, you know. I would love a cow in my backyard,

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but I don’t think my landlord would.

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Not a big fan. Yeah. Yeah.

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I’ve considered many times over the years getting my own chickens.

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There’s just something about that.

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I’ve always wanted my own chickens, getting my own eggs, having my own chicken. Yeah.

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Just something about that really appeals to me, but I have yet to pull the trigger.

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You should. Yeah. Chickens are the best.

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I’ve had chickens on and off for the past eight years or so.

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Yeah. They’re the absolute best. They’re the gateway.

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They’re the gateway animal. Like if you weren’t interested in prepping or homesteading

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or anything before, you will after you get chickens.

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They’re just, they’re amazing. They’re awesome. And they give you eggs for just

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letting them eat and be cool and hang out.

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Like, they’re great. It seems like such a cool thing.

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My buddy, my old high school buddy, he in the last, I’d say,

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three, maybe four years now has gotten into chickens.

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Otherwise, he’s not into any prepping. He’s not, you know, whatever.

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He just decided to build a, you know, what is it, a roost and get him some chickens.

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And he’s loving it. Like, he’s got eggs all the time, continuously,

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and he tells me all the time, I was like, yeah, rub it in, rub it in.

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You know, I think there was, in 2020, there was something going on with eggs,

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I think, or something, and, like, one of my friends was like,

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I am never going to be without eggs again.

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I’m getting my own chickens, but he was just so PO’d at what was going on in

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this world. He’s like, I’m never going to be without eggs again,

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and he got chickens, and he had them still. Like, you know, he loves them.

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And so, yeah, you know, I mean, there you go.

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You just provided yourself some really great protein.

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Some breakfast, some lunch, some dinner, and some great protein source in the

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mix. A healthy protein source in the mix, too.

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Yeah, yeah. I know before we got started, we wanted to talk about why considering

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being more of a prepper or being better prepared is important.

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And I think, you know, you brought up,

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a great point that 2008 happened, you know, the bottom fell out.

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A lot of people found themselves in hardship.

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And we knew that wasn’t the first time that’s ever happened, right?

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We’ve already mentioned the Great Depression in the span of this.

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And then most recently, three years ago, give or take whatever it is,

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kind of trying to forget it already, but we were hit with this,

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you know, at least this blown up pandemic. But the point is,

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it put people in predicaments, right?

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Working from home, whatever it might be, it was a game changer.

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And now we’re seeing supply chains impacted still three years later, etc, etc.

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But aside from that, what are some other reasons that someone should consider

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prepping or doing more prepping for themselves?

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So i think i honestly think covid

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should have been a big wide wake-up call

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for so many people because there’s so much disruption of things i mean just

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like so many different things and like you said we’re still recovering years

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later but there’s also other things in the mix besides just you know what happened from covid it’s,

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Mother Nature is causing a lot of supply chain disruptions as well.

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Like there’s been either drought in which a lot of crops are just unable to thrive.

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And then there’s also flooding, which takes out the crops as well.

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There’s hurricanes, which can impact just supplies getting to and from places.

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There’s just a lot of different things. And then, you know, what’s going on

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in Ukraine and Russia and all that, that can cause different things as well.

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Gas prices. Yeah. Yeah. Gas prices. It all has an effect on everything.

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And there’s also the imports and exports. Like there was a rice export from India, I believe.

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Their crops were horrible this year.

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And they’re having a lot of issues. But they’re also having some injunctions

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and things from other places.

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Which they can’t export to certain places anymore.

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And so a lot of places might be without rice or their animals might be without

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the rice or something like that, you know. And so…

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A lot of different stuff is happening right now.

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We’re still consuming a lot of products and foods from last year.

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And that’s starting to come to a close in which we’re getting more of this year’s stuff for next year.

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And we’re going to be seeing some different stuff there. So it should be interesting.

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Yeah, I think, you know, like we were talking about, I think that it’s naive

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to think that what’s happened, you know,

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twice, dare I say, in recent past, like what, the last 14 years,

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give or take, it should be a pretty good sign that you need to start doing something, right?

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And I think the other piece that happens, you know, even with,

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you know, with the media saying, oh, there’s going to be a snowstorm this weekend,

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everyone rushing out to the stores and trying to buy everything they possibly

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can at the nth hour or in a short period of time hoarding everything they can

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get their hands on, too. And there’s no need for that.

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There’s a way, there’s an easier way to avoid the panic and there’s no need

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to hoard because that’s the other thing I don’t, I think it’s safe to say that

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prepping is not, it’s not about hoarding.

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It’s not about, and it’s about being able to avoid that panic.

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Right. I think that’s a real important.

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Well, if we look at the most recent natural disaster, Hurricane Ian, I think it was Ian.

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People did it again. They were at the stores, you know, getting all the last minute stuff.

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They were gas lines, you know, miles long. I mean, this is every natural disaster.

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And it’s really surprising when you look at it from a perspective of you live

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in a hurricane area. And so it’s like…

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You know, you, people should be expecting this, but what happens is the hurricane comes, right?

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It, it takes something away from you or it doesn’t either way you recover or, you know, you move on.

00:17:02.219 –> 00:17:04.919
Right. You’re like, yay, I’m glad that was over. That’s cool.

00:17:05.119 –> 00:17:07.259
Okay. Let me get on with my rest of my life.

00:17:07.479 –> 00:17:10.619
And like people just, right.

00:17:12.299 –> 00:17:17.939
So, you know, most people probably were very, you know, anxiety ridden about it.

00:17:18.039 –> 00:17:22.399
But once it’s done, people just try to block it out of their minds.

00:17:22.559 –> 00:17:28.059
And so hopefully the more times these things happen, the more people realize,

00:17:28.239 –> 00:17:30.939
okay, maybe I should have a little extra food.

00:17:31.059 –> 00:17:36.279
So that’s kind of the hope, you know, through each natural disaster that less

00:17:36.279 –> 00:17:41.839
and less people are going to that store so that you don’t have to be one of those people that,

00:17:42.567 –> 00:17:49.247
It doesn’t have to rely on the store for your milk or bread during a hurricane.

00:17:49.627 –> 00:17:56.927
So good to have it. Yeah, I mean, I would like to think that just to keep yourself

00:17:56.927 –> 00:18:02.247
away from the chaos and the panic and the hoarding and the having to get to

00:18:02.247 –> 00:18:05.407
the store when everyone else and their brother and sister are going there,

00:18:05.627 –> 00:18:11.767
like, that should be cause alone to do a little preparing,

00:18:12.047 –> 00:18:14.027
dare I say. ahead of time, you know?

00:18:14.827 –> 00:18:18.927
And you don’t have to hoard it. It’s just buying a little extra here or,

00:18:18.967 –> 00:18:23.227
you know, growing your garden, whatever it looks like for you, you do you, right?

00:18:23.387 –> 00:18:30.847
But just a little extra along the way, thinking about upcoming events that are likely to happen.

00:18:30.987 –> 00:18:34.127
Now, what they’re going to be and when they’re going to happen, who only knows, right?

00:18:34.247 –> 00:18:38.207
But you can pretty much bet that they are going to happen.

00:18:38.207 –> 00:18:42.127
And it’s not about stockpiling. It’s just every so often,

00:18:42.307 –> 00:18:46.967
whatever your budget allows you, whenever it’s on top of mind is to get that

00:18:46.967 –> 00:18:50.207
little extra something, something along the way so that you’re better prepared

00:18:50.207 –> 00:18:53.207
when and if the time comes to need it, right?

00:18:54.087 –> 00:18:59.407
Yeah, exactly. Preparing is just about knowing, you know, that things do happen.

00:18:59.707 –> 00:19:02.647
Like you said, you don’t know when, but you can control what you can control

00:19:02.647 –> 00:19:09.267
and you can control how much extra food or candles or whatever else you might

00:19:09.267 –> 00:19:11.707
need to continue living as normally as possible.

00:19:11.947 –> 00:19:16.967
I did a video once about how to stay warm during no electricity.

00:19:17.447 –> 00:19:23.507
And one of the things that I said was to warm up some, you know,

00:19:23.887 –> 00:19:25.867
warm water and drink that warm water, you know.

00:19:26.777 –> 00:19:29.577
You know with lemon or tea or some tea or coffee or

00:19:29.577 –> 00:19:32.517
whatever and I got

00:19:32.517 –> 00:19:35.317
a comment that said well that’s really easy to say that you

00:19:35.317 –> 00:19:39.557
know you could warm up water if you have some way to warm it that’s right you

00:19:39.557 –> 00:19:45.537
can have some way to warm it you have you know a Coleman or you have some sort

00:19:45.537 –> 00:19:50.077
of alternative method to warm water and that’s just it you know once you start

00:19:50.077 –> 00:19:52.917
thinking well how would I do that?

00:19:53.097 –> 00:19:58.957
How would I continue to cook? How would I continue to have a light source to

00:19:58.957 –> 00:20:02.417
stay warm or cool or whatever the case may be?

00:20:02.557 –> 00:20:07.357
And you start just asking yourself this and then figuring out the solution for

00:20:07.357 –> 00:20:08.737
that works for you. Yeah.

00:20:09.177 –> 00:20:13.837
No, I think that’s a great point. And it’s something that we’ve talked about

00:20:13.837 –> 00:20:17.477
before is, you know, and I think it’s applicable even when we think in terms

00:20:17.477 –> 00:20:22.657
of being better prepared supply-wise is thinking through scenarios.

00:20:23.077 –> 00:20:28.537
And then in that given scenario, who cares what someone else would do or thinks

00:20:28.537 –> 00:20:31.117
you should do in a given scenario?

00:20:31.417 –> 00:20:34.637
How would you solve that problem? What would you do?

00:20:34.757 –> 00:20:40.777
And most importantly, I think to the whole entire ethos, if you will,

00:20:40.817 –> 00:20:45.977
of preparing is what would you do ahead of time to stave off that situation

00:20:45.977 –> 00:20:48.457
from happening or being as bad as it could.

00:20:48.657 –> 00:20:53.297
So thinking through those situations and then knowing that if I needed to drink

00:20:53.297 –> 00:20:59.937
a warm beverage and there was no electricity, what might I do in preparation ahead of time.

00:21:00.734 –> 00:21:04.374
To get ready for that so that when I need that, I know what I’m going to do.

00:21:04.514 –> 00:21:08.774
And I’ve got the supplies that I’ve decided that are right for me or the technique

00:21:08.774 –> 00:21:12.734
that’s right for me, you know, because that’s part of it. Yeah, totally.

00:21:13.074 –> 00:21:16.614
Yeah. I mean, that’s exactly it. Like what’s going to work for me is not going to work for you.

00:21:16.914 –> 00:21:21.034
You know, I store, you know, extra gas, but a lot of people who live in an apartment

00:21:21.034 –> 00:21:23.714
that can’t do that, or, you know, maybe they can do, you know,

00:21:23.874 –> 00:21:24.734
something completely different.

00:21:24.914 –> 00:21:27.174
You know, there’s lots of ways to do things.

00:21:27.634 –> 00:21:30.814
And so, I mean, there’s just so much

00:21:30.814 –> 00:21:34.014
abundant options these days it’s

00:21:34.014 –> 00:21:36.794
it’s silly to to to think

00:21:36.794 –> 00:21:40.694
that you can’t find something that’s right for you because because you can’t but

00:21:40.694 –> 00:21:43.654
yeah ask those questions like go through

00:21:43.654 –> 00:21:46.674
a typical day well okay i take a shower well

00:21:46.674 –> 00:21:50.094
in an emergency could i still take a shower you know or could

00:21:50.094 –> 00:21:54.474
i you know how would i change my hygiene process you know or and then how would

00:21:54.474 –> 00:21:59.874
i you know cook and and you know what kind of entertainment we have and all

00:21:59.874 –> 00:22:01.734
this other stuff yeah and i

00:22:01.734 –> 00:22:07.334
think that’s another great point too is that once you’re in the situation.

00:22:08.754 –> 00:22:13.274
That ideally you’d be better prepared for you might find yourself in a pickle

00:22:13.274 –> 00:22:18.354
so it’s all about figuring out what you need to do and what supplies you need

00:22:18.354 –> 00:22:22.954
to have on hand ahead of time, and that’s really key as well.

00:22:24.114 –> 00:22:26.734
And then when you have it ahead of time, you’ll have lots of downtime,

00:22:26.814 –> 00:22:29.114
and then you’ll get to play board games or something.

00:22:29.694 –> 00:22:32.574
Right, and you don’t have to sweat it so much because you know you’re better

00:22:32.574 –> 00:22:34.954
prepared, dare I say. Exactly.

00:22:35.414 –> 00:22:39.134
How do we talk about that without using that word over and over again?

00:22:39.974 –> 00:22:46.834
You know, I think we should. I think we should make it just a common speak.

00:22:46.834 –> 00:22:49.634
You know, everybody, people come to me and they’re like, oh,

00:22:49.734 –> 00:22:51.334
I’m not a prepper, I’m not a prepper.

00:22:51.394 –> 00:22:54.574
But I just like to be prepared. And I’m like, all right.

00:22:54.754 –> 00:22:56.014
You know, like, it’s just one

00:22:56.014 –> 00:23:01.114
of those things where people are so skittish about these, like, you know.

00:23:01.914 –> 00:23:07.114
Words but you should be prepared that’s actually a really good thing it’s a

00:23:07.114 –> 00:23:11.134
very positive thing but i think there’s just so much negative stigma around

00:23:11.134 –> 00:23:16.094
it for various reasons and there doesn’t need to be no totally agree and you

00:23:16.094 –> 00:23:18.434
know again i’m not a big fan of the.

00:23:19.825 –> 00:23:23.025
I’m not shy in saying that. I think, you know,

00:23:23.145 –> 00:23:27.145
whether it’s a reality show on whatever channel or whatever else,

00:23:27.225 –> 00:23:32.625
I think they’ve done the notion of being better prepared a disservice because

00:23:32.625 –> 00:23:35.525
so oftentimes, to your point,

00:23:35.645 –> 00:23:43.825
it seems like they’ve given the notion of prepping or being a prepper a negative connotation.

00:23:43.825 –> 00:23:47.425
I mean, even when I think of prepper, I was I kind of cringe.

00:23:47.605 –> 00:23:52.905
I’m like, oh, I can see the pseudo tactical military person with the gas mask

00:23:52.905 –> 00:23:58.285
on and a food store basement stack, you know, from floor to ceiling and putting

00:23:58.285 –> 00:24:01.525
ramen noodles inside my door panels. Right.

00:24:02.025 –> 00:24:05.925
It’s really doesn’t. I mean, yes, there’s an extreme of everything,

00:24:05.945 –> 00:24:08.945
but it really doesn’t need or have to be that.

00:24:10.585 –> 00:24:16.885
Right and it’s that is still being portrayed almost to a t what you just said

00:24:16.885 –> 00:24:21.965
in movies and tv it’s like this i i just watched a movie the other day it was

00:24:21.965 –> 00:24:24.365
almost like exactly how you just

00:24:24.365 –> 00:24:28.745
described it and i was i was cringing the whole time i was like come on.

00:24:31.405 –> 00:24:37.845
But yeah you know yeah it’s kind of portrayed that way yeah yeah but it’s not

00:24:37.845 –> 00:24:43.065
about that and And you don’t have to be wearing a gas mask and all of that stuff

00:24:43.065 –> 00:24:46.145
in your daily life to be a prepper.

00:24:46.345 –> 00:24:51.305
And it makes a lot of sense. So for those that maybe have thought about it,

00:24:51.385 –> 00:24:56.165
but maybe they’ve been turned away because of the image or the negative connotation

00:24:56.165 –> 00:24:59.985
that’s been, you know, that they’ve picked up on or whatever.

00:25:00.705 –> 00:25:05.285
But for someone that’s got a family and they’re thinking about the next 2008

00:25:05.285 –> 00:25:08.725
or they’re thinking about the next pandemic, because rest assured,

00:25:08.965 –> 00:25:11.765
there will be a next something. Okay.

00:25:12.392 –> 00:25:18.332
How can someone get started? What’s the way? What’s the process?

00:25:19.292 –> 00:25:23.952
What’s an easy way to people think about it and go about it if they want to

00:25:23.952 –> 00:25:25.212
get started and they’re interested?

00:25:26.532 –> 00:25:33.132
I think one of the easiest ways for people to do it is to focus on their core needs.

00:25:33.372 –> 00:25:38.192
And one of the most important core needs is going to be your food and water.

00:25:39.752 –> 00:25:42.512
And so most of us do shop at

00:25:42.512 –> 00:25:45.392
the grocery store and so every time you’re at the grocery store you

00:25:45.392 –> 00:25:48.352
just buy a couple non-perishable items

00:25:48.352 –> 00:25:51.712
of things that you eat it’s very important that i

00:25:51.712 –> 00:25:55.792
want to stress the things that you eat because if

00:25:55.792 –> 00:25:58.872
you go to the store and let’s say you’ve been doing some research about

00:25:58.872 –> 00:26:01.932
prepping and you know what foods to store it’ll say

00:26:01.932 –> 00:26:04.752
a lot of things like beans and rice and it’ll keep

00:26:04.752 –> 00:26:07.472
saying beans and rice but if you do

00:26:07.472 –> 00:26:10.712
not eat beans and rice then don’t buy beans

00:26:10.712 –> 00:26:13.712
and rice yes they are they

00:26:13.712 –> 00:26:18.432
last for a long time and they’re great you know lots of nutrients in them they

00:26:18.432 –> 00:26:24.412
do not cover your whole nutrients but they’re great fantastic but again you

00:26:24.412 –> 00:26:29.512
don’t eat it don’t store it yeah you know get the canned foods and the non-perishable

00:26:29.512 –> 00:26:31.392
items that you do eat you and your family.

00:26:32.152 –> 00:26:35.452
And so, you know, if you eat a lot of corn, then get some canned corn.

00:26:35.732 –> 00:26:39.712
If you don’t, you know, normally eat a lot of canned corn, that’s okay.

00:26:39.932 –> 00:26:43.772
Keep eating your fresh corn and then eat the canned corn when you don’t have

00:26:43.772 –> 00:26:46.572
the fresh or, you know, during an emergency or whatever, you know,

00:26:46.592 –> 00:26:51.592
get creative with this stuff, but just get a little bit of extra food and like

00:26:51.592 –> 00:26:53.232
a couple gallons of water or whatever.

00:26:53.472 –> 00:26:58.632
And, you know, whatever’s going to work with your budget and your space and that’s basically it.

00:26:58.792 –> 00:27:04.212
You can proceed from there to learn skills or whatever else you want to do. However, however.

00:27:05.308 –> 00:27:09.408
How much further you want to take your preparedness or you just want that food,

00:27:09.668 –> 00:27:13.168
extra food and water and candles or something, you’re good. That’s fine, too.

00:27:13.828 –> 00:27:18.128
So what I’m hearing you say is that I don’t have to buy up all those cans of

00:27:18.128 –> 00:27:24.188
Vienna sausage. I can get things like black beans and early peas and some other

00:27:24.188 –> 00:27:26.528
tastier things that I might enjoy more.

00:27:28.428 –> 00:27:32.668
Listen. Spam and Vienna sausage do not have to be my go-to.

00:27:34.308 –> 00:27:41.528
No no you need the spam okay that’s a necessity you’re not a prepper unless you have the spam,

00:27:42.468 –> 00:27:49.328
you know i i can’t i cannot i cannot bring myself to do the vienna sausage the

00:27:49.328 –> 00:27:53.628
spam and the sardines and mustard sauce i’m sorry it’s going to be a lot of

00:27:53.628 –> 00:27:56.208
veggies in my shelf if that’s what i have to do.

00:27:57.908 –> 00:28:03.708
It’s so funny you mentioned the sardines i had that for dinner did you really I did.

00:28:03.808 –> 00:28:07.048
I love sardines on crackers, and they get a really bad rap.

00:28:07.268 –> 00:28:10.488
They are so nutritious for you. They’re really good.

00:28:10.688 –> 00:28:13.948
They are. Yeah, and in a pinch, they’re a great source of protein,

00:28:13.948 –> 00:28:15.608
if nothing else. Totally.

00:28:16.288 –> 00:28:19.468
Yeah, you can do it without the spam and the sausage or whatever.

00:28:20.908 –> 00:28:27.408
I think I might have to become a canned vegetarian if it comes down to it before it’s over with, right?

00:28:28.868 –> 00:28:34.408
Yeah, whatever you got to do. So starting with the food, and again,

00:28:34.608 –> 00:28:38.508
it’s about getting the food that you would actually want to eat ideally.

00:28:38.788 –> 00:28:41.848
I mean, yeah, there’s might come a time where you need to do some other things

00:28:41.848 –> 00:28:44.388
like the beans and rice, which I agree.

00:28:44.388 –> 00:28:49.368
It seems to be like the go-to thing touted, like make sure your pantry’s full

00:28:49.368 –> 00:28:54.048
of rice and beans, but there’s other alternatives and choices and it’s about,

00:28:54.048 –> 00:28:56.988
you know, anything else. It’s, I think,

00:28:57.575 –> 00:29:00.655
an indirect point there it’s about thinking about

00:29:00.655 –> 00:29:03.515
what’s sustainable for you too and that part of

00:29:03.515 –> 00:29:06.275
that is diet right like right if

00:29:06.275 –> 00:29:09.655
you’re not a rice and beans person that’s probably not going to be sustainable

00:29:09.655 –> 00:29:17.075
for you right and you know a lot of people we need that kind of variety too

00:29:17.075 –> 00:29:22.195
like you know some people tell me that they eat beans rice every day and i have

00:29:22.195 –> 00:29:24.715
to call bs i just You have to call BS.

00:29:25.955 –> 00:29:30.835
Maybe you eat it for one meal a day or something. Okay, fine. I’ll believe that.

00:29:31.055 –> 00:29:35.255
But three meals all day, every day?

00:29:36.355 –> 00:29:37.635
Life is boring.

00:29:40.495 –> 00:29:45.535
There’s so many ways to make great food from canned food.

00:29:45.695 –> 00:29:50.015
And if you don’t like the store canned food, can your own stuff.

00:29:50.335 –> 00:29:53.435
Can your own chicken. Can your own vegetables. Can your own food.

00:29:53.615 –> 00:30:00.895
I mean, just, you know, so there’s lots of ways to get the food that you and

00:30:00.895 –> 00:30:05.255
your family need and have that variety they need and want and,

00:30:05.255 –> 00:30:07.495
you know, boost that morale,

00:30:07.935 –> 00:30:11.355
beans and rice every single day, at least for us. Look, I’m not saying…

00:30:12.195 –> 00:30:15.775
If you eat beans and rice every day, it’s wrong. I’m just saying.

00:30:16.355 –> 00:30:19.275
It can be a little demoralizing to have to do it all the time.

00:30:20.555 –> 00:30:27.375
Yeah. Beans and rice actually take an extreme amount of resources, heat and water.

00:30:27.615 –> 00:30:29.335
They take a lot of resources.

00:30:29.735 –> 00:30:31.995
That’s a good point. So, yeah.

00:30:33.315 –> 00:30:38.795
I hope you’re ready for that. That’s all I’m saying. Yeah. In talking about

00:30:38.795 –> 00:30:44.855
food, you know, COVID made me realize it caught me off guard,

00:30:45.015 –> 00:30:47.535
right, as I’m sure it caught a lot of folks off guard.

00:30:47.655 –> 00:30:53.135
And what I mean by that is I didn’t have a surplus. And what I mean by surplus is I wasn’t hoarding.

00:30:53.275 –> 00:30:58.815
Like, I don’t have an entire bedroom from floor to ceiling full of toilet paper or whatever.

00:30:59.615 –> 00:31:02.435
But because i wasn’t thinking in terms

00:31:02.435 –> 00:31:06.075
of a pandemic ever happening where the supply

00:31:06.075 –> 00:31:09.215
chains could be impacted where supplies would fly

00:31:09.215 –> 00:31:13.615
off the shelves because people are in panic mode or thinking about hoarding

00:31:13.615 –> 00:31:18.615
i didn’t have a lot of stuff i had a few of the things but you know when i think

00:31:18.615 –> 00:31:23.515
in terms of the pandemic for example like in retrospect i should have had more

00:31:23.515 –> 00:31:28.115
and you know for me it’s just for me right and everybody’s going to have their own stuff but for me,

00:31:28.575 –> 00:31:31.895
I probably should have had more rubbing alcohol on hand.

00:31:32.015 –> 00:31:39.915
I should have definitely had more TP on hand. I should have had more Clorox or Lysol wipes on hand.

00:31:40.155 –> 00:31:44.875
I should have had, and the good news is, is because I was already kind of of

00:31:44.875 –> 00:31:47.075
the mindset, I did have some,

00:31:47.601 –> 00:31:52.821
But I definitely didn’t have as many N95 masks as I should have.

00:31:53.441 –> 00:31:58.721
Yes. So I feel like these things that at least I, for myself,

00:31:58.941 –> 00:32:03.561
uncovered due to the pandemic are things that I need to make sure that I have

00:32:03.561 –> 00:32:08.901
on hand at all times and I have what I personally feel might be enough for me.

00:32:09.061 –> 00:32:15.721
But what are some other things? I mean, water obviously is top of the food chain, so to speak.

00:32:16.001 –> 00:32:19.901
Yeah. So what are some things people need to think about and what are some things

00:32:19.901 –> 00:32:22.821
that that they need to have on hand at all times?

00:32:23.861 –> 00:32:26.421
You know, it’s really interesting that you say it caught you off guard.

00:32:26.521 –> 00:32:29.921
I think it caught literally everyone. It’s been the most experienced frapper.

00:32:30.121 –> 00:32:34.961
It caught everybody off guard because when we thought about a pandemic, I don’t know,

00:32:35.121 –> 00:32:40.521
like we we just thought about it differently, you know, and and and,

00:32:40.661 –> 00:32:44.241
you know, we still I still talked about how to be prepared for a pandemic.

00:32:44.421 –> 00:32:46.161
I talked about it for years before it happened.

00:32:46.421 –> 00:32:51.881
But I never really thought about it in the sense of the supply chains and stuff like that.

00:32:51.981 –> 00:32:55.501
I just didn’t, it didn’t really occur to me. I don’t know.

00:32:56.221 –> 00:32:58.581
And then, so…

00:32:59.718 –> 00:33:06.118
I was very similar to you. Not enough rubbing alcohol, not enough N95 math.

00:33:06.278 –> 00:33:08.038
I had some, but not nearly enough.

00:33:08.378 –> 00:33:14.238
And so it was a big wake-up call to think outside of the box of other things.

00:33:14.238 –> 00:33:19.718
So, you know, now we, I really stock up hard on a lot of first aid stuff and

00:33:19.718 –> 00:33:25.058
I have like a lot of, I go for more like supply stuff, but that’s me.

00:33:25.698 –> 00:33:34.058
Like, um, I will store propane bottles and I will store like beeswax and stuff

00:33:34.058 –> 00:33:38.198
like that because I like to make candles or I make my own salve and I make my own stuff like that.

00:33:38.198 –> 00:33:42.378
But canning jars was also something that everybody and their mother decided

00:33:42.378 –> 00:33:44.998
to get into canning during the pandemic.

00:33:45.438 –> 00:33:48.178
Who would have thought there would have been a mason jar shortage?

00:33:49.418 –> 00:33:53.638
Yes, there was a huge mason jar shortage. And it actually lasted a good long

00:33:53.638 –> 00:33:56.698
time. It’s kind of looking okay now.

00:33:57.118 –> 00:34:02.938
But, you know, there was a huge canning, like the pressure canners and the water

00:34:02.938 –> 00:34:05.058
bath canners, huge shortage of those as well.

00:34:06.838 –> 00:34:10.918
And so yeah weird things that you would never expect.

00:34:13.298 –> 00:34:18.558
So not to cut you off there but that’s kind of a good thing in a way right like

00:34:18.558 –> 00:34:22.438
the bad thing was is that there was a shortage because people went crazy and

00:34:22.438 –> 00:34:26.698
lost their mind and went and they got it but that meant that people were thinking

00:34:26.698 –> 00:34:32.798
that way and knew what maybe to get for themselves and so that’s a positive in that in my mind,

00:34:33.531 –> 00:34:38.511
Totally. And it totally was. It was irritating on one end.

00:34:40.551 –> 00:34:45.911
You know, you’re like, yay, people are, you know, they’re canning.

00:34:45.991 –> 00:34:49.671
I hope you’re doing this safely. You know, you’re you’re getting mylar bags

00:34:49.671 –> 00:34:51.791
so you can do all this. You know, you’re you’re doing whatever.

00:34:52.311 –> 00:34:57.071
And it was great on one hand and then it was very irritating on the other end.

00:34:57.571 –> 00:35:00.271
But, you know, it just made you as a prepper realize, you know,

00:35:00.451 –> 00:35:02.351
this is this is a good thing.

00:35:02.351 –> 00:35:07.471
This is great, you know, and I personally should have been better prepared for

00:35:07.471 –> 00:35:12.831
this and let these people have, you know, whatever they needed or whatever.

00:35:13.251 –> 00:35:17.551
Everybody gets what they need, but, you know, just depends on the time frame that you get it.

00:35:18.291 –> 00:35:25.951
But, yeah, so very interesting pandemic. Everybody baking banana bread and all these things.

00:35:26.691 –> 00:35:28.331
And so. Tasty times.

00:35:30.131 –> 00:35:36.191
Right. So people learning to cook and bake, you know, for the very first time

00:35:36.191 –> 00:35:38.671
in their whole lives. In their entire lives. And I think that’s fantastic.

00:35:38.851 –> 00:35:40.751
Yeah. Yeah. Got to start somewhere.

00:35:41.671 –> 00:35:45.771
So water, and you bring up an excellent point, first aid, trauma,

00:35:45.991 –> 00:35:48.531
tourniquets, stop the bleed type of stuff.

00:35:48.711 –> 00:35:53.511
But what are the top things that you think people should really think about

00:35:53.511 –> 00:35:59.711
and plan for and have in their back pocket, in their basement, whatever it is?

00:36:00.565 –> 00:36:07.145
So really, so it’s food and water, and then it’s going to be like alternative sources of things.

00:36:07.405 –> 00:36:12.985
So like an alternative heat source, alternative cooling sources, even just fans.

00:36:13.945 –> 00:36:18.605
And then like alternative, yeah, heating, cooling, and alternative cooking.

00:36:20.625 –> 00:36:26.365
And really, if you can cover those basic needs right there, you got your food

00:36:26.365 –> 00:36:28.025
and your water, you got ways to cook it.

00:36:28.025 –> 00:36:30.965
You have ways to keep warm or you have ways to

00:36:30.965 –> 00:36:34.485
keep cool you can pretty much you know slide

00:36:34.485 –> 00:36:39.565
through almost anything but i think the most important before you do any of

00:36:39.565 –> 00:36:44.925
that really like you go get your food and water that’s fine but you you should

00:36:44.925 –> 00:36:51.025
really think about plans so i think having emergency disaster plans can really

00:36:51.025 –> 00:36:53.825
help guide you in your preparedness so,

00:36:54.345 –> 00:36:58.605
So, you know, if you want to, if there’s going to be an instance where you’re

00:36:58.605 –> 00:37:02.885
going to be staying in, you can have plans for your alternative communication,

00:37:03.125 –> 00:37:07.385
your alternative cooking, heating, cooling, whatever, because you’ve already thought about it.

00:37:07.465 –> 00:37:12.865
Like, okay, well, you know, this tornado is going to force us into our basement or whatever it is.

00:37:12.925 –> 00:37:17.025
And so we have all this stuff and we have ways to keep warm and we have entertainment

00:37:17.025 –> 00:37:18.805
and we have all everything there, right?

00:37:19.585 –> 00:37:24.805
Or this wildfire is going to push us from our home. Well, where are we going to go?

00:37:25.065 –> 00:37:30.625
And those emergency disaster plans can help you figure out where to go,

00:37:30.805 –> 00:37:34.385
what are you going to pack, who are you going to contact, what kind of meeting

00:37:34.385 –> 00:37:36.725
points are you going to have, et cetera, et cetera.

00:37:37.600 –> 00:37:44.420
And so it can actually drive the whole rest of your preparedness once you get those plans.

00:37:45.220 –> 00:37:48.760
And, of course, the plans will always change and expect that.

00:37:49.400 –> 00:37:56.240
Have A, B, C, D, E, F, F, G plans, but also be ready to adapt.

00:37:56.960 –> 00:37:58.300
Yeah, right. Exactly.

00:37:59.160 –> 00:38:03.960
Yeah, and then make sure everyone in the FAM knows what their role is and what

00:38:03.960 –> 00:38:06.960
they’re to do and how they can help and all of that good stuff, too.

00:38:07.860 –> 00:38:15.280
Totally. Yeah. Our kids are always eager to help. We get them involved in their bug out bags.

00:38:15.740 –> 00:38:19.220
We go through all the mock drills. They’re with us.

00:38:19.820 –> 00:38:24.280
There’s no reason to exclude your family unless they think that you’re crazy

00:38:24.280 –> 00:38:28.120
or something. But either way, you need to still be, you know,

00:38:28.200 –> 00:38:30.800
at least telling them, hey, here’s the fire extinguisher.

00:38:31.060 –> 00:38:34.240
If something happens, grab it, you know, or whatever, you know,

00:38:34.380 –> 00:38:37.700
hey, you know, here’s, I don’t know, another example.

00:38:37.980 –> 00:38:41.680
If you live on a second floor, here’s the ladder in case there’s a fire in the

00:38:41.680 –> 00:38:43.060
house. There’s a lot of fire anywhere.

00:38:45.180 –> 00:38:49.000
Having a game plan and communicating it and then practicing it.

00:38:49.300 –> 00:38:53.940
That’s all part of preparedness, too. In addition to just, you know,

00:38:54.100 –> 00:38:58.540
I think a lot of times we think about preparedness, about stocking up on supplies.

00:38:58.540 –> 00:39:03.920
But to your point, it’s really about having those plans in place, too, and being ready.

00:39:04.180 –> 00:39:07.380
It’s really about being ready at the end of the day, whether it’s a plan,

00:39:07.620 –> 00:39:12.600
a scenario, or supply, a destination, whatever it is.

00:39:12.680 –> 00:39:16.240
It’s just about planning. Yeah, absolutely.

00:39:17.080 –> 00:39:20.900
Well, this has been great. Great. How can people find you, Morgan,

00:39:21.160 –> 00:39:24.600
at Rogue Preparedness? I know you’re on Instagram. I know you’re on YouTube,

00:39:24.600 –> 00:39:26.300
but how can they get to you?

00:39:27.833 –> 00:39:33.093
So, really, if you just go to Instagram and search Rope Preparedness, I should come up.

00:39:33.233 –> 00:39:39.133
Same with YouTube and then also RopePreparedness.com blog and all that.

00:39:39.373 –> 00:39:42.813
And a lot of free resources, checklists, whatever.

00:39:45.853 –> 00:39:49.033
And, yeah, podcasts somewhere in there.

00:39:49.533 –> 00:39:53.153
Somewhere in the mix. Yeah. Well, I can tell you firsthand there’s a lot of

00:39:53.153 –> 00:39:57.493
good info that you’re putting out there. So hopefully folks will find it and

00:39:57.493 –> 00:39:59.553
appreciate it as much as I do.

00:40:00.153 –> 00:40:03.933
I’m glad we were able to finally do this. Thanks so much for coming on.

00:40:05.853 –> 00:40:08.553
Yes, thank you so much for having me. Appreciate it. You bet.